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		<title>By: Shannon Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really want to eat it, eat it. 

You don&#039;t have to abide by every strict rule of veganism there is. Just be yourself and don&#039;t worry about the standards. Veganism is pretty hardcore. If you can&#039;t do it perfectly, that&#039;s ok. Every little bit helps.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Vegan that eats honey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really want to eat it, eat it. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to abide by every strict rule of veganism there is. Just be yourself and don&#8217;t worry about the standards. Veganism is pretty hardcore. If you can&#8217;t do it perfectly, that&#8217;s ok. Every little bit helps.<br /><b>References : </b><br />Vegan that eats honey!</p>
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		<title>By: Hannibal the Cannibal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannibal the Cannibal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, that quorn stuff, and other meat/cheese replacements, are just processed junk anyway. I eat them about as often as I eat junk food, which is rarely. Plus, it gets expensive...you&#039;ll be amazed at how cheap a vegan diet *really* is as long as you cut the crap. 

Watch out for: milk, whey, and casein (including sodium caseinate and calcium caseinate) as ingredients, as well as egg albumin and albumin.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;vegan bodybuilder and personal trainer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, that quorn stuff, and other meat/cheese replacements, are just processed junk anyway. I eat them about as often as I eat junk food, which is rarely. Plus, it gets expensive&#8230;you&#8217;ll be amazed at how cheap a vegan diet *really* is as long as you cut the crap. </p>
<p>Watch out for: milk, whey, and casein (including sodium caseinate and calcium caseinate) as ingredients, as well as egg albumin and albumin.<br /><b>References : </b><br />vegan bodybuilder and personal trainer</p>
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		<title>By: Theo S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theo S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here you go http://www.godairyfree.org/Food-to-Eat/Food-Label-Info/Hidden-Dairy.html

the e numbers are a big one because alot of them are like beetle juice and stuff but supplyers wont release info on whats veg and whats not so you dont know wether or not your eating meat

i know its very hard avoiding animal ingredients in a meat world

i eat all the fake alternatives like facon bacon, sweetened soya milk, fake egg, golden syrup extra

so heres the pitfalls if the link doesnt work

Artificial Sweeteners – Darn, I guess we will have to suffer with real sugar! Some artificial sweeteners are derived from dairy foods. 

Baby Formula - Read the labels carefully on this one. Babies can have much more severe allergic reactions to milk than adults.

Bakery Goods – This is a hard one to verify, although many fresh bakery goods do come labeled with ingredients. 

Baking Mixes (cakes, biscuits, pancakes, etc.) – Read up, there are some okay brands. 

Bath Products (shampoo, conditioner, soap, etc.) – Okay, so these are not food items, but those who tend to have skin reactions to milk products (i.e. eczema) may want to avoid topical application. 

Bread – Whey is a common preservative in breads. Also, other milk proteins and possibly cheese or butter may be included, depending on the type and brand. 

Breath Mints – Not all, but a few do contain casein related ingredients. 

Candy – Much of the candy world (of the non-chocolate variety) is free game from a dairy free point of view, not from a health perspective of course, but there are a few to watch out for. 

Canned Tuna Fish – Some contain hydrolized caseinate, check out our Product List for the good ones. 

Caramel – This is a highly suspicious food and ingredient. It may either be made from sugar and water or milk. 

Cereal - Dry and instant cereals vary significantly in ingredients. Even the same type of cereal may contain milk ingredients in the brand name, but not in the generic version. 

Chewing Gum – Okay, now this is a weird one. Some brands do actually contain milk protein ingredients. 

Chocolate – Milk chocolate is a given, but some semi-sweet and dark chocolate brands have milk ingredients as well. Luckily the better tasting ones don&#039;t, check our Product List for some excellent dairy free chocolates. 

Chocolate Drinks – Even the non-milk varieties frequently have some dairy to beef them up. 

Coffee Whiteners / Creamers - Well, something has to make them white and creamy. 

Cookies &amp; Crackers – Often the most processed foods of them all. 

Cream Liqueurs – These may possess solid milk ingredients or caseinates. 

Custard / Pudding – Most contain milk products, although a few are dairy free. 

Drugs / Medications - Lactose is used as the base for more than 20 percent of prescription drugs and about 6 percent of over-the-counter medicines and vitamins. 

Eggnog - Try some soy-nog, or make an at home version with other &quot;milk&quot; alternatives. 

Fat Replacers - Some are derived from milk, such as Simplesse® &amp; Dairy-Lo®.

Fondues - Isn&#039;t this the word the Swiss use for cheese? 

Fried Foods – The breading on fried foods can contain many mysterious substances. Also, cheese is commonly added for flavor and texture. 

Ghee - This is technically pure butter fat, no proteins or sugars, but some argue that trace amounts may still linger. 

Goat’s Milk – Although slightly different, goat’s milk has proteins similar in structure to cow’s milk proteins, and thus is often an allergen for those with cow’s milk allergy. Also, goat’s milk contains a significant amount of lactose, just a touch less than cow’s milk, and thus not suitable for those with lactose intolerance. 

Granola &amp; Nutrition Bars - Just like cookies, various milk additives could be in there. 

Gravies - Some utilize milk ingredients for flavor and texture. 

Hot Cocoa Mix - The best varieties are pure cocoa and sugar, but some have milk ingredients added for a creamier drink. 

Hot Dogs - What isn&#039;t in hot dogs? 

Imitation Maple and Other Syrups - Go for the real stuff, it tastes much better! 

Instant Potatoes - Particularly the Au Gratin varieties. 

Kosher Parve Desserts - Most parve foods are okay, but those with highly sensitive milk allergies may have a problem with the desserts. 

Lactose Free Milks - These will still be loaded with milk proteins. 

Lunch Meats &amp; Sausages - Some &quot;meat allergies&quot; are actually dairy allergies in disguise. Lactose and caseinates are common in these foods, as well as ingredient cross-contamination. 

Margarine - Most are not dairy free, and many are rich in hydrogenated oils. 

Meal Replacement / Protein Powders &amp; Beverages – Those instant breakfast mixes and muscle beverages may contain powdered milk, or other milk derived ingredients. 

Peanut Butter - A very few may contain milk solids. 

Potato Chips – Particularly risky among the flavored varieties, although several brands and f&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;im vegan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here you go <a href="http://www.godairyfree.org/Food-to-Eat/Food-Label-Info/Hidden-Dairy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.godairyfree.org/Food-to-Eat/Food-Label-Info/Hidden-Dairy.html</a></p>
<p>the e numbers are a big one because alot of them are like beetle juice and stuff but supplyers wont release info on whats veg and whats not so you dont know wether or not your eating meat</p>
<p>i know its very hard avoiding animal ingredients in a meat world</p>
<p>i eat all the fake alternatives like facon bacon, sweetened soya milk, fake egg, golden syrup extra</p>
<p>so heres the pitfalls if the link doesnt work</p>
<p>Artificial Sweeteners – Darn, I guess we will have to suffer with real sugar! Some artificial sweeteners are derived from dairy foods. </p>
<p>Baby Formula &#8211; Read the labels carefully on this one. Babies can have much more severe allergic reactions to milk than adults.</p>
<p>Bakery Goods – This is a hard one to verify, although many fresh bakery goods do come labeled with ingredients. </p>
<p>Baking Mixes (cakes, biscuits, pancakes, etc.) – Read up, there are some okay brands. </p>
<p>Bath Products (shampoo, conditioner, soap, etc.) – Okay, so these are not food items, but those who tend to have skin reactions to milk products (i.e. eczema) may want to avoid topical application. </p>
<p>Bread – Whey is a common preservative in breads. Also, other milk proteins and possibly cheese or butter may be included, depending on the type and brand. </p>
<p>Breath Mints – Not all, but a few do contain casein related ingredients. </p>
<p>Candy – Much of the candy world (of the non-chocolate variety) is free game from a dairy free point of view, not from a health perspective of course, but there are a few to watch out for. </p>
<p>Canned Tuna Fish – Some contain hydrolized caseinate, check out our Product List for the good ones. </p>
<p>Caramel – This is a highly suspicious food and ingredient. It may either be made from sugar and water or milk. </p>
<p>Cereal &#8211; Dry and instant cereals vary significantly in ingredients. Even the same type of cereal may contain milk ingredients in the brand name, but not in the generic version. </p>
<p>Chewing Gum – Okay, now this is a weird one. Some brands do actually contain milk protein ingredients. </p>
<p>Chocolate – Milk chocolate is a given, but some semi-sweet and dark chocolate brands have milk ingredients as well. Luckily the better tasting ones don&#8217;t, check our Product List for some excellent dairy free chocolates. </p>
<p>Chocolate Drinks – Even the non-milk varieties frequently have some dairy to beef them up. </p>
<p>Coffee Whiteners / Creamers &#8211; Well, something has to make them white and creamy. </p>
<p>Cookies &amp; Crackers – Often the most processed foods of them all. </p>
<p>Cream Liqueurs – These may possess solid milk ingredients or caseinates. </p>
<p>Custard / Pudding – Most contain milk products, although a few are dairy free. </p>
<p>Drugs / Medications &#8211; Lactose is used as the base for more than 20 percent of prescription drugs and about 6 percent of over-the-counter medicines and vitamins. </p>
<p>Eggnog &#8211; Try some soy-nog, or make an at home version with other &quot;milk&quot; alternatives. </p>
<p>Fat Replacers &#8211; Some are derived from milk, such as Simplesse® &amp; Dairy-Lo®.</p>
<p>Fondues &#8211; Isn&#8217;t this the word the Swiss use for cheese? </p>
<p>Fried Foods – The breading on fried foods can contain many mysterious substances. Also, cheese is commonly added for flavor and texture. </p>
<p>Ghee &#8211; This is technically pure butter fat, no proteins or sugars, but some argue that trace amounts may still linger. </p>
<p>Goat’s Milk – Although slightly different, goat’s milk has proteins similar in structure to cow’s milk proteins, and thus is often an allergen for those with cow’s milk allergy. Also, goat’s milk contains a significant amount of lactose, just a touch less than cow’s milk, and thus not suitable for those with lactose intolerance. </p>
<p>Granola &amp; Nutrition Bars &#8211; Just like cookies, various milk additives could be in there. </p>
<p>Gravies &#8211; Some utilize milk ingredients for flavor and texture. </p>
<p>Hot Cocoa Mix &#8211; The best varieties are pure cocoa and sugar, but some have milk ingredients added for a creamier drink. </p>
<p>Hot Dogs &#8211; What isn&#8217;t in hot dogs? </p>
<p>Imitation Maple and Other Syrups &#8211; Go for the real stuff, it tastes much better! </p>
<p>Instant Potatoes &#8211; Particularly the Au Gratin varieties. </p>
<p>Kosher Parve Desserts &#8211; Most parve foods are okay, but those with highly sensitive milk allergies may have a problem with the desserts. </p>
<p>Lactose Free Milks &#8211; These will still be loaded with milk proteins. </p>
<p>Lunch Meats &amp; Sausages &#8211; Some &quot;meat allergies&quot; are actually dairy allergies in disguise. Lactose and caseinates are common in these foods, as well as ingredient cross-contamination. </p>
<p>Margarine &#8211; Most are not dairy free, and many are rich in hydrogenated oils. </p>
<p>Meal Replacement / Protein Powders &amp; Beverages – Those instant breakfast mixes and muscle beverages may contain powdered milk, or other milk derived ingredients. </p>
<p>Peanut Butter &#8211; A very few may contain milk solids. </p>
<p>Potato Chips – Particularly risky among the flavored varieties, although several brands and f<br /><b>References : </b><br />im vegan</p>
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		<title>By: Mistress K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mistress K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a vegan, if you don&#039;t know what something contains, assume it isn&#039;t vegan.

A lot of biscuits and cereals contain whey powder.

Items that are fortified with vitamin D most often contain a form that is from Lanolin (sheep wool)&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a vegan, if you don&#8217;t know what something contains, assume it isn&#8217;t vegan.</p>
<p>A lot of biscuits and cereals contain whey powder.</p>
<p>Items that are fortified with vitamin D most often contain a form that is from Lanolin (sheep wool)<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no seemingly vegan foods full of dairy.  There are vegetarian foods that are full of dairy, egg, and honey (the three most talked about vegan no-nos).

If you really want to be on a vegan diet, you should not assume anything with packaged foods.  Unless you&#039;re buying fresh fruits and vegetables, you need to check ingredient lists or look for &quot;vegan&quot; on the label.  Even nuts, seeds, and some packaged fruits/vegetables may contain dairy, egg, honey, or other animal products.

Products from Quorn, Morningstar, Bocca, and other makers of vegetarian products very often put egg and dairy in their products.  Unless they mark it as vegan, there&#039;s a good chance it&#039;s not.  For example, I just looked at the ingredients in a few Quorn items.  They all included some form of dairy and egg.  Some products actually had &quot;cheese&quot; in the name of the product!

So, if you&#039;re not into read labels, I&#039;d stick to only fresh products.  Even those, if you&#039;re really really strict vegan, may have residual animal products.  Almost no one is that strict, but if you are...&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not a vegan, but I can&#039;t eat dairy, so I look for vegan items.  I&#039;ve been disappointed that many veggie burgers contain dairy, for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no seemingly vegan foods full of dairy.  There are vegetarian foods that are full of dairy, egg, and honey (the three most talked about vegan no-nos).</p>
<p>If you really want to be on a vegan diet, you should not assume anything with packaged foods.  Unless you&#8217;re buying fresh fruits and vegetables, you need to check ingredient lists or look for &quot;vegan&quot; on the label.  Even nuts, seeds, and some packaged fruits/vegetables may contain dairy, egg, honey, or other animal products.</p>
<p>Products from Quorn, Morningstar, Bocca, and other makers of vegetarian products very often put egg and dairy in their products.  Unless they mark it as vegan, there&#8217;s a good chance it&#8217;s not.  For example, I just looked at the ingredients in a few Quorn items.  They all included some form of dairy and egg.  Some products actually had &quot;cheese&quot; in the name of the product!</p>
<p>So, if you&#8217;re not into read labels, I&#8217;d stick to only fresh products.  Even those, if you&#8217;re really really strict vegan, may have residual animal products.  Almost no one is that strict, but if you are&#8230;<br /><b>References : </b><br />I&#8217;m not a vegan, but I can&#8217;t eat dairy, so I look for vegan items.  I&#8217;ve been disappointed that many veggie burgers contain dairy, for example.</p>
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		<title>By: raychelevety</title>
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		<dc:creator>raychelevety</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would check your local grocery store to see what there is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would check your local grocery store to see what there is.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: petunia</title>
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		<dc:creator>petunia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to wikipedia Quorn uses egg whites as a binder, so I personally don&#039;t even consider that vegetarian. Some do, and that&#039;s cool. 

You could take a &#039;flexitarian&#039; view on veganism, and live a generally vegan lifestyle, and just indulge in certain things very occasionally. be a &#039;fleexan  haha. Just coined that term.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to wikipedia Quorn uses egg whites as a binder, so I personally don&#8217;t even consider that vegetarian. Some do, and that&#8217;s cool. </p>
<p>You could take a &#8216;flexitarian&#8217; view on veganism, and live a generally vegan lifestyle, and just indulge in certain things very occasionally. be a &#8216;fleexan  haha. Just coined that term.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: The ?ighty ?aptain ?bviou?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The ?ighty ?aptain ?bviou?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is Quorn?  I say eat it anyways.  Veganism is already restrictive enough.  Eat what you feel fine with instead of following some herd.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is Quorn?  I say eat it anyways.  Veganism is already restrictive enough.  Eat what you feel fine with instead of following some herd.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Ya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have no personal objection to eating quorn, then continue eating it.  Why must you fit the mold of every other vegan?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have no personal objection to eating quorn, then continue eating it.  Why must you fit the mold of every other vegan?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Sooo Many Questions!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sooo Many Questions!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Veganism - potential pitfalls?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve been vegetarian for a while now and have decided to &quot;trail&quot; veganism for a couple of months. I&#039;ve started off quite well and am really enjoying the diet aspect of the lifestyle change, but have run into a pitfall - I&#039;ve just been told that quorn isn&#039;t suitable for vegans! 

Are there any other seemingly vegan foods which are actually full of dairy I should be aware of? I was pretty shocked that Quorn is a no-no. 

Any advice on avoiding the pitfalls would be great. Thanks
After the first two answers I feel I should probably add that one of the main reasons I am trying to go vegan is to stop eating diary products in full - no more saturated fat, hormones, allergenic proteins etc. As milk and eggs are in Quorn, I cannot eat this and meet my objective of going dairy free. 

So I&#039;m looking for advice on what else appears to be animal-free when it&#039;s not, rather than advice how not to follow the herd. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Veganism &#8211; potential pitfalls?</b><br />I&#8217;ve been vegetarian for a while now and have decided to &quot;trail&quot; veganism for a couple of months. I&#8217;ve started off quite well and am really enjoying the diet aspect of the lifestyle change, but have run into a pitfall &#8211; I&#8217;ve just been told that quorn isn&#8217;t suitable for vegans! </p>
<p>Are there any other seemingly vegan foods which are actually full of dairy I should be aware of? I was pretty shocked that Quorn is a no-no. </p>
<p>Any advice on avoiding the pitfalls would be great. Thanks<br />
After the first two answers I feel I should probably add that one of the main reasons I am trying to go vegan is to stop eating diary products in full &#8211; no more saturated fat, hormones, allergenic proteins etc. As milk and eggs are in Quorn, I cannot eat this and meet my objective of going dairy free. </p>
<p>So I&#8217;m looking for advice on what else appears to be animal-free when it&#8217;s not, rather than advice how not to follow the herd. <img src='http://www.diocesancouncil.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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